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A PSA: if you think Naoto Shirogane is a girl you’re fucking disgusting and transphobic. bottom line.

Y’all really getting pissed for pointing out the fact that ATLUS likes to bait LGBT+ memebers by erasing things they themselves established as canon, only before they try to cover that shit up.

hmm 🤔

The fact that he is the most oversexualized character of the whole series also speaks volumes, but go off I guess.

Sex isn’t gender and he’s a transmale, so there it is.

You do realize that’s Shadow Naoto, right? As in, the darkest parts of your personality twisted into an unholy Eldritch Abomination? Going by that logic, Rise is actually a stripper, Chie is actually a dominatrix, Yukiko is actually a giant bird thing, etc…

And also:

Look I’m trying to step back from video game discourse, but Naotocourse will always piss me off. Quite frankly people who are so insistent on Naoto being a man are very ignorant (some might say lowkey racist but I feel that’s too far) which is just plain unacceptable when trying to comment on a series like Persona that ties character arcs so heavily into aspects of Japanese culture. Naoto is a showing of Japan’s heavy ageism and sexism, especially in more serious careers like detective work. She is in no way meant to be shown as trans, if she was than honestly the game would not have been subtle on it.

Wait wait wait, hold up, did OP say Naoto is the most oversexualized character in all of Persona? What in the goddamn. Like she’s in the same fucking game as Rise Kujikawa, not to mention any characters from other games. But Naoto isn’t even the most sexualized P4 character let alone the entire franchise.

Good points! What I’d also like to point out is that

THE SHADOW SELF

IS NOT

THE TRUE SELF

EVER

IN ANY WAY

SHAPE

OR

FUCKIN’ FORM

The shadow self, according to Jungian philosophy, WHICH IS WHAT THE GAME IS BASED ON, is the opposite of who we are, it’s what we fear we may become, it’s our hopes, dreams, and desires twisted into the complete opposite of who we are as people. It’s not what we want to become, it’s what we do not want to become but fear we may have to become.

In other words, because of strict gender roles within her culture, within Japanese culture, Naoto felt pressured into the idea that she had to change her gender, had to become a man, in order to have her hopes, dreams, and desires come true and be recognized by the sexist society in which she lives. She did not want to do this, but felt that she may have to wind up doing so. However, in defeating her Shadow self, she comes to accept her True Self, thus unlocking her persona. She gains the strength to take on society and work hard to have society accept her as she is, a young woman intent on becoming a police detective and solving crimes.

Japan is not the USA. ATLUS is not an American company. Persona is not an American series. It comes from Japan, a country that has stricter gender roles, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. It’s alright to have headcanons, but once you insist that it’s actually canon and then throw around accusations to make other people feel bad for reminding you that it’s just a headcanon, you lose your credibility in your argument.

Naoto Shirogane is not trans. She’s a young Japanese cis woman dealing with sexism in Japan.

But I suppose OP will just ignore this and continue calling people transphobic for not liking their headcanon, because that’s the way people like OP roll, I guess.

“Naoto is the most oversexualized character in Persona”

I guess if you have zero experience outside of Persona 4…

Also, other LGBT people are telling you to shove it OP. You’re the wrong one here.